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<div class='messagehead_verse'>Johannes 8,46-59</div>
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<div class='messagestart'>Inleiding</div>
<div class='messagestart_text'>Een heftige dialoog binnen het Joodse volk</div>
<div class='messagestart'>Vertaling</div>
<div class='message'><span class='versnummer'>46</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 20px;'>Wie van jullie verwijt mij een zonde<sup>1</sup> ?</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Als ik waarheid<sup>2</sup>  spreek,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>waarom geloven jullie<sup>3</sup> &nbsp;&nbsp;mij dan niet?&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>47</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 20px;'>Wie uit<sup>4</sup>  God is geeft gehoor aan<sup>5</sup>  de woorden van deze God —</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>dáárom<sup>6</sup>  geven jullie er geen gehoor aan:</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>omdat jullie niet uit God zijn!</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>48</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>De Judeeërs<sup>7</sup>  antwoordden en zeiden<sup>8</sup>  tegen hem:</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Zeggen wij niet terecht</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>dat u een Samaritaan bent</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>en een demon hebt?</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>50</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>Jezus antwoordde<sup>9</sup> :</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Ik heb geen demon,&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>maar ik eer mijn vader	</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>en jullie onteren mij!</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Maar ik zoek niet mijn eigen heerlijkheid<sup>10</sup>  &mdash;</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>er is iemand die zoekt en oordeelt…<sup>11</sup> </span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>51</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 20px;'>Amen, amen, ik zeg jullie:</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>als iemand mijn woord bewaart</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>zal hij geen dood aanschouwen, niet tot in eeuwigheid<sup>12</sup> !</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>52</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>De Judeeërs zeiden tegen hem:</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Nu onderkennen wij dat u een demon hebt!</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Abraham is gestorven, en de profeten ook —</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>en u zegt:&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 76px;'>als iemand<sup>13</sup>  mijn woord bewaart</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 76px;'>zal hij geen dood proeven, niet tot in eeuwigheid!</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>53</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 20px;'>U bent toch niet groter dan onze vader Abraham die gestorven is?!</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>En ook de profeten zijn gestorven…!</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Wie maakt u van uzelf<sup>14</sup> ?</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>54</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>Jezus antwoordde:</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Als ik mijzelf verheerlijk,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>is mijn heerlijkheid niets.</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Het is mijn vader die mij verheerlijkt, </span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>van wie jullie zeggen: die is onze God! </span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>55</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 20px;'>En jullie kennen Hem niet,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>maar ik weet van Hem!&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Als ik zeg dat ik niet van Hem weet,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>zal ik net als jullie een leugenaar zijn!</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Maar ik weet van Hem</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>en ik bewaar zijn woord.</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>56</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 20px;'>Abraham, jullie vader, bejubelde het zien van mijn dag<sup>15</sup> ,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>en hij zag<sup>16</sup>  die en verheugde zich.</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>57</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>Toen zeiden de Judeeërs tegen hem:</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>U bent nog geen vijftig jaar </span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>en hebt Abraham gezien?!</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>58</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>Jezus zei tegen hen:</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Amen, amen, ik zeg jullie:</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>voordat Abraham geboren werd ben ik…<sup>17</sup> !&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>59</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>Toen pakten ze stenen op om naar hem te gooien. </span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>Maar Jezus verborg zich<sup>18</sup> </span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>en</span>
<div class='noten'>Noten</div>
<div class='noottable'><table><tr><td class='nootnummer'>1</td><td class='noot'>zo Naardense Bijbel</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>2</td><td class='noot'>NBV `de waarheid´</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>3</td><td class='noot'>met nadruk apart zo aangeduid, geeft de felheid van de dialoog weer; daarom cursief, ook in het vervolg</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>4</td><td class='noot'>NBV `van´; is toch iets anders</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>5</td><td class='noot'>zo NB</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>6</td><td class='noot'>laat NBV weg, maakt de retoriek zwakker</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>7</td><td class='noot'>ik volg hier voorlopig het voorstel van Pieter Oussoren, geeft minder aanleiding tot het misverstand van jodenhaat</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>8</td><td class='noot'>beide woorden samen door de NBV vervangen door `riepen´, waarom zo´n ingreep?</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>9</td><td class='noot'>NBV `zei´</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>10</td><td class='noot'>de NBV vertaalt `timan´ en `doxa´ allebei met `eer´/´eren´</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>11</td><td class='noot'>de NBV parafraseert hier, moet misschien ook wel</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>12</td><td class='noot'>in de NBV wordt `aioon´ afgevlakt tot `nooit´</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>13</td><td class='noot'>de NBV verbreekt de bijna-parallellie met Jezus´ woorden</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>14</td><td class='noot'>zo NB; de NBV gebruikt `denken´, is minder actief</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>15</td><td class='noot'>NBV `komst´ — maar als Johannes dat had willen zeggen had hij dat wel geschreven</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>16</td><td class='noot'>NBV `meemaakte´, verliest het lijfelijke en de link met `zien´ in vs. 57</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>17</td><td class='noot'>zonder het `er´ van de NBV wordt het krachtiger</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>18</td><td class='noot'>`verbergen´ verdwijnt in de NBV</td></tr>
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