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<div class='messagehead'>Tiende zondag van de zomer, 26 augustus 2012</div>
<div class='messagehead_verse'>Marcus 8,1-21</div>
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<div class='messagestart'>Inleiding</div>
<div class='messagestart_text'>Wie het brood aan de menigte durft voor te zetten heeft genoeg van de zuurdesem van de Farizeeen...</div>
<div class='messagestart'>Vertaling</div>
<div class='message'><span class='versnummer'>1</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>In die dagen<sup>1</sup> </span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>&mdash; er is weer veel menigte en ze hebben niets te eten – </span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>roept hij de leerlingen bij zich,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>hij zegt tegen hen:</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>2</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 20px;'>Ik ben geroerd<sup>2</sup>  door de menigte,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>omdat ze al drie dagen bij mij blijven</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>en niets te eten hebben.</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>3</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 20px;'>En als ik hen ongevoed<sup>3</sup>  naar hun huis laat gaan,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>zullen ze onderweg uitgeput raken<sup>4</sup> ;</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>en sommigen van hen zijn van ver gekomen.</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>4</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>Zijn leerlingen reageerden op hem:</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Waar zal iemand het vandaan kunnen halen<sup>5</sup> </span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>om dezen hier met broden te verzadigen<sup>6</sup>  in de woestenij<sup>7</sup> ?!</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>5</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>Hij vroeg hun:</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Hoeveel broden hebben jullie?</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>Zij zeiden:</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Zeven...</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>6</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>Dan laat hij het bericht uitgaan<sup>8</sup>  naar de menigte</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>om áán te gaan liggen<sup>9</sup>  op de aarde.</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>Hij nam de zeven broden</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>en sprak de dankzegging uit,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>hij brak ze</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>en gaf ze aan zijn leerlingen,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>om ze voor te zetten<sup>10</sup> ,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>en zij zetten ze voor aan de menigte.</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>7</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>Ze hadden ook een paar visjes;</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>hij sprak daarover de zegen uit</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>en zei </span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>dat ze ook deze moesten voorzetten.</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>8</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>Zij aten</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>en werden verzadigd,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>en ze haalden de overblijfsels van de brokken op: zeven manden.</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>9</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>Er waren ongeveer vierduizend...</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>Toen liet hij hen gaan.</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>10</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>En meteen stapte hij op, het schip in, met zijn leerlingen,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>en hij kwam in de streken van Dalmanoetha.</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>11</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>Toen liepen de Farizeeën uit<sup>11</sup> </span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>en begonnen samen met hem te onderzoeken<sup>12</sup> :</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>ze zochten van zijn kant een teken vanaf de hemel,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>zo probeerden ze hem uit...</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>12</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>Hij zucht omhoog<sup>13</sup>  in zijn geest,&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>hij zegt:</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Wat zoekt dit geslacht<sup>14</sup>  een teken?</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Het is zeker, zeg ik jullie:</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>óf<sup>15</sup>  aan dit geslacht een teken gegeven zal worden...</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>13</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>Hij liet hen gaan</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>en stapte weer op,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>hij ging weg naar de overkant.</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>14</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>En ze waren vergeten broden mee te nemen</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>en op één brood na hadden ze niets bij zich op het schip.</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>15</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>Toen droeg hij hun op,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>hij zei:</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Kijk uit,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>zie af van de zuurdesem van de Farizeeën</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>en van de zuurdesem van Herodes.</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>16</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>En zij bespraken met elkaar<sup>16</sup> ,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>dat ze geen broden hadden...</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>17</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>Als hij dat merkt,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>zegt hij tegen hen:</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Wat ben je aan het overleggen,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>dat je geen broden hebt?</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Verstaan jullie het nog niet,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>begrijpen jullie het niet?!</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Hebben jullie een hart dat verhard is<sup>17</sup> ?!</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>18</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 40px;'>Ogen hebben jullie – jullie zien niet,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 76px;'>en oren hebben jullie – jullie horen niet’?<sup>18</sup> </span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Herinneren<sup>19</sup>  jullie je niet,</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>19</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 20px;'>toen ik de<sup>20</sup>  vijf broden brak voor de<sup>21</sup>  vijfduizend,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>hoeveel korven vol brokken jullie ophaalden?!</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>Ze zeggen tegen hem:</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Twaalf...</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>20</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 20px;'>En toen met de zeven (broden) voor de vierduizend,</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>hoeveel manden gevuld met brokken jullie ophaalden?!</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 36px;'>Ze zeggen:</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>Zeven...</span>
<br><span class='versnummer'>21</span><span style='padding: 0 0 0 0px;'>Toen zei hij tegen hen:</span>
<br><span style='padding: 0 0 0 56px;'>En nog begrijpen jullie het niet?!</span>
<div class='noten'>Noten</div>
<div class='noottable'><table><tr><td class='nootnummer'>1</td><td class='noot'>NBV heeft geen dagen, maar het slappe ‘op een keer’...</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>2</td><td class='noot'>in een werkvertaling van Klaas Eldering lees ik: ‘Ik heb buikpijn over...’; NB: ‘mijn hart trekt samen’, NBV topdown: ‘ik heb medelijden met al die mensen’</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>3</td><td class='noot'>Zo Klaas Eldering; NBV familiair: met een lege maag’</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>4</td><td class='noot'>‘wegsturen’ en ‘uitgeput raken’ 2 x <span class='greek' font-size: 10pt;><span class='greek' font-size: 10pt;>λύω</span></span>, 1x met <span class='greek' font-size: 10pt;><span class='greek' font-size: 10pt;>ἀπό</span></span>, 1x met <span class='greek' font-size: 10pt;><span class='greek' font-size: 10pt;>ἐκ</span></span>; helaas is dit in de vertaling niet hoorbaar te maken...</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>5</td><td class='noot'>omslachtig uitgedrukt in het origineel, in de vertaling dus ook</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>6</td><td class='noot'>NBV verzwakkend ‘voorzien van...’</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>7</td><td class='noot'>laat de herinnering aan de woestijntocht doorklinken</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>8</td><td class='noot'>NB: ‘kondigt hij af’</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>9</td><td class='noot'>verrassende term voor de maaltijd</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>10</td><td class='noot'>als de verteller ‘uitdelen’ (zo NBV) had willen zeggen, had hij dat wel gedaan...</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>11</td><td class='noot'>zo NB</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>12</td><td class='noot'>‘zoeken’ is hier een motiefwoord; NB: ‘ruzie zoeken’; NBV ‘discussiëren’</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>13</td><td class='noot'><span class='greek' font-size: 10pt;><span class='greek' font-size: 10pt;>ἀνά</span></span> (‘omhoog’) haalt toch even de hemel erbij, maar anders...; grappig dat ‘Murre’ als betekenis geeft ‘diep zuchten’, zo ook al NB en NBV</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>14</td><td class='noot'>NBV: ‘uw soort mensen’</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>15</td><td class='noot'>of toch ‘als aan...’, met evenzeer een open einde; zo NB; NBV vult teveel in</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>16</td><td class='noot'>NB: ‘zij bleven tegen elkaar maar zeggen’</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>17</td><td class='noot'>NBV laat het hart weg: ‘hardleers’</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>18</td><td class='noot'>Cf. Jeremia 5,21; Ezechiël 12,2</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>19</td><td class='noot'>waarom negeert de NBV dit uitgesproken woord en vertaalt ‘weten’?</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>20</td><td class='noot'>dit versterkende lidwoord laat de NBV weg</td></tr><tr><td class='nootnummer'>21</td><td class='noot'>idem</td></tr>
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